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Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Wawatam » March 28, 2015, 3:32 pm

Here is an updated photo of the M/V Miner (Canadian Miner) wreck taken a couple of days ago. A link to the Cape Breton Post article describing it, is below the photo.
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Published on March 26, 2015-This photo of the MV Miner worksite was taken Monday by Department of Transportation and Infrastructure Renewal.

http://www.capebretonpost.com/News/Loca ... -mid-May/1

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by hayhugh3 » December 21, 2014, 1:18 pm

insurance payout would mainly depend on Coast Guard final determination of fault.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Guest II » December 21, 2014, 12:31 pm

Has any corporation/company ever been penalized for fact that the vessel went loose and grounded? Any compensation received by anybody?

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Chris M » December 21, 2014, 7:32 am

Link?

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Vox » December 19, 2014, 8:04 pm

The latest post the Miner photo gallery from the Coastal Discovery Center is from Nov 17th and is posted here. A lot of the aft end was cut away even then.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Mr Link » December 7, 2014, 6:02 pm

Here is a link to a December 5th article about the salvage. 30 tonnes of asbestos and 30,000 liters of fuel removed so far under this contract.

http://www.capebretonpost.com/News/Loca ... -cleanup/1

Haven't seen any photos posted since early October. However the Coastal Discovery Centre's website appears to be back up and running and they have photos from October as well as a timeline updated through November 7th 2014.

http://www.coastaldiscoverycentre.ca/wo ... ntre/c1yzj

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Dave2 » September 6, 2014, 1:16 pm

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia ... rogressing

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by guest 5 » September 3, 2014, 7:45 am

Here are a couple of links I found about the ship.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scot ... -1.2706957

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia ... breakwater

http://thechronicleherald.ca/novascotia ... rie-island

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Guest » September 2, 2014, 7:28 pm

Any updates thanks?

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Wawatam » July 25, 2014, 8:06 am

Holubecois wrote:.....She's going to be cut up/torn up on the spot, she can't float anymore and there's too much structural damage even if they did patch all the holes. Her back is broken, although she has not quite broken in half yet. She's also firmly pinned to the rocks.Check out the Mahommet salvage report, it's quite interesting.
Here's a direct link to the report:
http://novascotia.ca/tenders/pt_files/t ... ANDS63.pdf

Check out the photos of the Miner starting on page 308 of the report. It gives you an idea of what the salvage operation is up against. Scatarie island is very remote, has inhospitable terrain and is at the mercy of the vagaries of weather coming from the North Atlantic.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Mac Mackay » July 25, 2014, 6:38 am

Despite debatable comments below regarding asbestos, there are health and safety laws in Nova Scotia governing disposal of hazardous wastes. Leaving them lying on a beach is not a approved disposal process. Asbestos pipe lagging in particular can be come dislodged and friable. Once airborne it is impossible to control.
Asbestos must be removed from the environment in a controlled way. It is laborious and the workers must be protected from exposure. It is a costly process if done in Canada under Canadian regulations.
Many shipowners, regrettably, have found that the cheapest form of disposal is to sell the ship to India or other third world countries where the regulations do not exist. There is a movement afoot to halt this trade, but it is meeting with limited success.
Turkey does have decent regulations, so there is some assurance of the material being safely removed if the ship makes it.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Holubecois » July 24, 2014, 10:19 pm

basketcase wrote:
Holubecois wrote:
mopar tim wrote:How does a salvage company even begin to get this ship out of its current situation?. Is it possible to cut it up on site or would it have to be repaired and towed?. Also it looks like a fairly desolate area would it even be an option to just leave it there and let nature take care of it?. Sorry for all the questions but this story has got my interest right now.

She's going to be cut up/torn up on the spot, she can't float anymore and there's too much structural damage even if they did patch all the holes. Her back is broken, although she has not quite broken in half yet. She's also firmly pinned to the rocks.Check out the Mammoet salvage report, it's quite interesting.
link?
Unfortunately as far as I know, these forums don't allow the posting of links due to stupid spammers peddling their warez.

So if you want the document put "nova scotia tenders NSLANDS63.pdf" in google. It's called "Disposal of Derelict Vessel - MV Miner".

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by basketcase » July 23, 2014, 6:48 am

Holubecois wrote:
mopar tim wrote:How does a salvage company even begin to get this ship out of its current situation?. Is it possible to cut it up on site or would it have to be repaired and towed?. Also it looks like a fairly desolate area would it even be an option to just leave it there and let nature take care of it?. Sorry for all the questions but this story has got my interest right now.

She's going to be cut up/torn up on the spot, she can't float anymore and there's too much structural damage even if they did patch all the holes. Her back is broken, although she has not quite broken in half yet. She's also firmly pinned to the rocks.Check out the Mahommet salvage report, it's quite interesting.
link?

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Guest » July 22, 2014, 11:29 pm

Guest 5 wrote:The asbestos must be removed from the Miner to prevent it from entering the food chain. Asbestos does not decompose over time.
The only problem with asbestos is the inhalation of asbestos fibers. We all have some in our lungs since it's natural and in the air, but too much can cause serious respiratory problems like asbestosis.

A little bit of wet insulation poses zero risk to the environment or ourselves. The only reason they even have to watch out for it is because they're going in there to cut her up.

Left where it is, it's harmless.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Holubecois » July 22, 2014, 10:52 pm

mopar tim wrote:How does a salvage company even begin to get this ship out of its current situation?. Is it possible to cut it up on site or would it have to be repaired and towed?. Also it looks like a fairly desolate area would it even be an option to just leave it there and let nature take care of it?. Sorry for all the questions but this story has got my interest right now.

She's going to be cut up/torn up on the spot, she can't float anymore and there's too much structural damage even if they did patch all the holes. Her back is broken, although she has not quite broken in half yet. She's also firmly pinned to the rocks.Check out the Mahommet salvage report, it's quite interesting.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by mopar tim » July 22, 2014, 9:19 pm

How does a salvage company even begin to get this ship out of its current situation?. Is it possible to cut it up on site or would it have to be repaired and towed?. Also it looks like a fairly desolate area would it even be an option to just leave it there and let nature take care of it?. Sorry for all the questions but this story has got my interest right now.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by TWilush » July 22, 2014, 3:15 pm

MattJ wrote:I would think that asbestos abatement would have been done years ago. Can't see a company leaving it in place when they know asbestos poses health risks.
No, it's still there; one of the major costs involved with scrapping at IMS is asbestos abatement. As long is it is well covered and undisturbed it is not a problem. In some of the older vessels I believe air quality tests are done periodically.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by MattJ » July 22, 2014, 12:53 pm

I would think that asbestos abatement would have been done years ago. Can't see a company leaving it in place when they know asbestos poses health risks.

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Guest 5 » July 22, 2014, 12:22 pm

A bond, before the towing, is the best way to insure that any clean up costs will be covered in the event a problem. This would insure that the towing company be held liable for damages not the taxpayers. The asbestos must be removed from the Miner to prevent it from entering the food chain. Asbestos does not decompose over time. Once the tow has been completed, the bond would be released back to the towing company. 12 million dollars would have been saved on the Miner wreck !

Re: Former Canadian Miner wreck

by Guest » July 22, 2014, 9:30 am

I don't know why they're wasting money on her. She's not doing any significant harm being left in place. Her tanks are empty and I can't imagine a little bit of wet asbestos posing any threat to man or nature.

20 years from now, she'd be all but invisible as mother nature continues to break her down.

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