Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

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Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by LakeWatcher » January 20, 2017, 2:14 pm

Why is she going into long term lay up, and just how long could long term be?

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by Guest » January 19, 2017, 4:36 pm

bob wrote:what was the reason to lay the Anderson up on the east side of dock 6, I understand that the ship is going into long term layup but I have never seen a ship tied up there before. seems like normally that if a ship is going into long term layup they use the frogpond at fraser shipyard like they did with the john g munson and American victory a few years ago. anyone with info on this subject is appreciated. tia
Bob- CN owns the docks and the Anderson. It's free. Fraser would charge docking fees. If Fraser needs to come do any work on the Anderson, it's no problem where she sits. They probably felt that location was best, not over on the Hallett side West of 5 as ships unload/load there and east of 5 is wide open to the elements. She'll be tucked in nice and cozy where she sits. Let's hope she sails again soon, there's men who need the work!

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by Guest » January 19, 2017, 3:30 pm

Most likely reason is that CN owns the dock and would not have to pay for any docking fee. It's also a secured site, being that it's an operating ore dock (on the west side of 6).

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by Guest » January 19, 2017, 2:51 pm

By laying up there the fleet doesn't have to pay rent on a berth. It's close to the fleet office and in a secure area so the fleet probably won't need to employ a live-aboard ship keeper.

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by bob » January 19, 2017, 11:15 am

what was the reason to lay the Anderson up on the east side of dock 6, I understand that the ship is going into long term layup but I have never seen a ship tied up there before. seems like normally that if a ship is going into long term layup they use the frogpond at fraser shipyard like they did with the john g munson and American victory a few years ago. anyone with info on this subject is appreciated. tia

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by garbear » January 17, 2017, 10:48 am

Guest wrote:Would someone be able to post a map or aerial image and point out where these specific docks are (west and east, etc.)? I'm not that well versed in what's where at the Twin Ports and I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks!
Here's a link to the Twin Ports docks. Use the plus sign to zero in. Find CN/D.M. & I. R. heading, or work left from Hallett #5. First dock is #5, no longer in use. The left side being West, the right side East. The Next dock is #6. Left being West. That's where the shiploader is located. Inner half of dock. Outer half still a gravity dock. Next side is East of #6. That's where the Anderson is laid up.

http://www.duluthport.com/port-map.php

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by Guest » January 17, 2017, 8:42 am

Would someone be able to post a map or aerial image and point out where these specific docks are (west and east, etc.)? I'm not that well versed in what's where at the Twin Ports and I would be greatly appreciative. Thanks!

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by garbear » January 15, 2017, 6:14 pm

pcolachap wrote:It appears the Anderson needs a dock that won't be used during the shipping season. CN has done quite a bit of work on the East side of #6. People wondered why. Perhaps they have other plans besides storage. When there was a need to lay up boats because of strikes or a decline in business~think 1981/82~ U S Steel used Hallet #5 to moor their boats. In 1982, the George M. Humphrey snuggled up to the inner end of DIM&R #5 to load natural ore for Indiana Harbor.
There were 7 or 8 USS boats laid up at Hallets. Sadly they never returned to service. Let's hope the reactivation of United Taconite will help our US Great Lakes fleet.! Mike
Mike-I fit out and laid up the Watson in 1979 at Hallett #5. My last year of sailing. I know the Watson fit out briefly in 1980. I think went into lay-up in May or June, never to sail again.

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by pcolachap » January 15, 2017, 4:43 pm

It appears the Anderson needs a dock that won't be used during the shipping season. CN has done quite a bit of work on the East side of #6. People wondered why. Perhaps they have other plans besides storage. When there was a need to lay up boats because of strikes or a decline in business~think 1981/82~ U S Steel used Hallet #5 to moor their boats. In 1982, the George M. Humphrey snuggled up to the inner end of DIM&R #5 to load natural ore for Indiana Harbor.
There were 7 or 8 USS boats laid up at Hallets. Sadly they never returned to service. Let's hope the reactivation of United Taconite will help our US Great Lakes fleet.! Mike

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by garbear » January 15, 2017, 1:37 pm

When I sailed East of 6 Missabe was the "Ford dock". Other boats loaded there, we did on the Clarke and Watson, but most of the time the Ford boats loaded in Duluth it was at that dock.

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by Guest » January 15, 2017, 12:33 pm

Arthur M Anderson is being put into long term lay-up. The East side of CN Ore Dock #6 is no longer used to load boats, just the West side.

Re: Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by mn brett » January 15, 2017, 12:28 pm

It makes sense with CN owning both the Docks and the Boats,years ago when the McCarthy backed into that slip way on the West side of the Harbor,and hit the object next to the Pier that flooded the Engine room,I wondered why would they do winter repairs so far from Fraser?,But I suppose it depends on needing shore side Cranes and power for the repairs needed this layup season! mn brett

Arthur M. Anderson Layup Berth

by garbear » January 15, 2017, 11:29 am

I was just on duluthboats.com and they have the Anderson laying up the East side of 6 at the CN ore dock. In the years I sailed with USS/GLF I don't recall a boat laying up there and in the 38 years I've lived in Duluth I don't remember a boat laying up there either.

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