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Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 15, 2020, 7:20 am

Round number two. Another weekend storm. This time they are predicting snow turning to rain and back to snow. What a mess for mid-Michigan. Mid January with no snow on the ground and no ice on our lakes. Ice fishermen will have to bring their boats for tip up town.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by JMarx » January 13, 2020, 3:51 pm

Thanks for the info. A picture is truly worth a thousand words...and that Cartiercliffe Hall pic just makes me cold... :-)

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 12, 2020, 8:17 pm

Here's the deck crew of the Cartiercliffe Hall in Lock 3 of the Welland Canal on December 29, 1985 removing ice from her hatchcovers.
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Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by geysir » January 12, 2020, 4:36 pm

Crews do get out on deck with sledge hammers and hot water hoses. I recall spending a below zero night on Lake Superior hosing and bashing foot-thick ice off hatch covers on an Oglebay Norton footer. Lake Superior, below zero, middle of the night, spray coming over the bow and out there in full rain suit swinging a sledge hammer so hatches can be opened at arrival in port. The job was hard sometimes.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 12, 2020, 3:08 pm

ICE on ships is very hazardous just as it is on land. Ice, no matter its source -wind driven spray from waves or an ice storm. Large enough amount of ice can raise the GMT of a vessel causing it to roll over. A training vessel at the Great Lakes Maritime dock rolled over due to heavy icing one winter from spay. I always enjoyed working on steam vessels on the lakes. Our crews had enough hot water supply to melt ice off the decks. Even with hot water it was very time consuming and dangerous job.
During one storm on Lake Superior we spent a day at anchor in Whitefish Bay deicing the pilothouse and decks around our winches so that we could navigate down the river. All of the pilothouse windows were covered with ice almost a foot thick in places.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by JMarx » January 12, 2020, 12:10 pm

Could someone educate me on the impact of ice storms on Lakers operations? I know ice build-up is generally considered a serious issue for ships with added weight etc. However, a quick web-search does not provide any articles or pictures of lake crews taking immediate actions with sledge hammers or whatever to rid ships of ice build-up. Do crews spend time manually de-icing boats?

(obviously asking as someone who does not sail)

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 12, 2020, 9:30 am

The day after the storm in mid Michigan. The Raisin River at Blissfield is going to crest above flood stage by Tuesday afternoon. In mid Michigan the storm did not supply as much moisture as was predicted. Only 2” of rain, not 3”. Very little freezing rain in the Irish Hills. Mostly sleet. As for snow from this storm we received less than .5”. The storm started breaking apart loosing its punch last night. The temperature stayed above freezing until late Saturday evening which help. The ice storm was very minor.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 11, 2020, 6:56 am

With the arrival of this winter storm, flood warnings have been posted for mid and SE Michigan. Flood Warnings for the Grand River at Jackson and Lansing, the Red Cedar River at East Lansing, St Joseph River in Michigan and Indiana. Rouge River to crest at 5.8’ above flood stage. Ecorse Creek to become a River. Raisin River with its head waters in Brooklyn, Michigan is surely going to flood as well.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 10, 2020, 11:59 am

Winter Storm update: Mid-Michigan now under a Winter Storm Warning. Paul Gross WDIV Ch 4 Detroit is reporting that this storm maybe a historic ice storm.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 10, 2020, 7:02 am

Thank you Guest, Yes it was Al Roker that I said and typed. Spell checker changed it when I submitted my post.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 9, 2020, 10:50 pm

Al Roker has direct experience with Great Lakes weather. He got his BS in Meteorology from the State University of New York (SUNY) at Oswego, on the shores of Lake Ontario, a school of national renown in the field, and occasionally returns to lecture/teach.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 9, 2020, 9:50 pm

Guest wrote:Al Romer was on NBC Nightly News talking about this weekend storm this evening.
I believe it's Al Roker.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 9, 2020, 6:45 pm

Al Romer was on NBC Nightly News talking about this weekend storm this evening.

Re: Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 9, 2020, 4:23 pm

Correction: Alpena , Mi could see 12 to 18 inches of snow. (darn auto correction with spell check). Ground is semi frozen in mid-Michigan resulting in potential flooding due to rapid run off.

Weekend Storm for Michigan

by Guest » January 9, 2020, 3:50 pm

The weekend storm that is developing is being reported to be of historic for Michigan. Mid to SE Michigan to receive 3+” of rain before changing to freezing rain and snow. NW lower Michigan could see 8 to 12 inches of snow. A small area around Allen’s could see 12 to 18 inches. Winter Storm Watch and a Flood Watch have been posted. Travel being reported to be nearly impossible for Saturday in Michigan.

Source Ch 10 Lansing and NWS.

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