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 Post subject: Re: CSL Tadoussac and season plans?
Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 10:06 pm 
Which she lol?? Algoway, Algorail, Pinglen or Tadoussac?


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 8:53 pm 
She is finished!


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 5:25 pm 

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All rumors until CSL confirms. Everyone here has spent the last five years saying the algoway is done, still sailing.


No one said they were going to be done prior to the new 650's arriving. When they arrive, the Way and Rail will most definitely be done


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 5:03 pm 
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All rumors until CSL confirms. Everyone here has spent the last five years saying the algoway is done, still sailing.



I believe the Algoway (and Algorail) would have been done a few years ago if Algoma had not ran into problems with the Chinese shipyard. I may be mistaken...but I'm not complaining as it will be tough to see these two go as did the Agawa Canyon quite a few years ago now.


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 3:12 pm 
I agree with you Guest about the rumors as for years I've heard and read that Algosteel was done also. Well take and look around as she is still sailing today. Also what happened with the Algorail as she is still in lay-up and I thought the plan was that Algoma would run both the Way and Rail this year? Sorry to go off subject and topic here.


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 1:25 pm 
All rumors until CSL confirms. Everyone here has spent the last five years saying the algoway is done, still sailing.


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 11:47 am 
Has nothing to do with her engines or lack of self unloading system (she was built to be a straight deck grain carrier, and many new straight deck grain carriers have recently been built). The high tensile steel she was constructed with allowed for the hull to be built lighter translating through to higher cubes. That thinner steel is now at the point of being too wasted to economically replace.


this is the same reason the Aird went early


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 11:12 am 
A crew member who was placed onto another ships or crew members I should say she is done they are stripping parts off her already


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Unread postPosted: June 14, 2017, 12:39 am 
Who has provided credible information to confirm the scrapping of the Pineglen?


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Unread postPosted: June 12, 2017, 10:28 pm 
Has nothing to do with her engines or lack of self unloading system (she was built to be a straight deck grain carrier, and many new straight deck grain carriers have recently been built). The high tensile steel she was constructed with allowed for the hull to be built lighter translating through to higher cubes. That thinner steel is now at the point of being too wasted to economically replace.


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Unread postPosted: June 12, 2017, 1:31 pm 
I think as soon as CSL and Algoma started thinking about new builds they stopped putting money in any of the older ships that were not the new for body ones.


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Unread postPosted: June 12, 2017, 11:31 am 
Don't have to worry about the Tadoussac for a few years yet as she had the major refit in 2001. She has the side tanks and CSL put a ton of money into her.


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Unread postPosted: June 12, 2017, 10:29 am 
RIP Pineglen - Aka "Piney". Although to be honest, I started to get concerned when she started spending these year long stints in layup. Thankful I got to basque in her glorious presence while I could.

But, she won't be forgotten. Atleast not here.

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Wasn't there something about the construction of the Pineglen that puts it at a disadvantage in comparison to other similarly designed vessels built during the late 1970s-early 1980s?


Lack of self unloader system, mainly. Supposedly her hull is made out of high tensile steel, so it's not a matter of being soft.


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Unread postPosted: June 12, 2017, 9:23 am 
The steel in her is really bad every trip to Thunder Bay she had to repair cracks csl put captains on her that would baby her the past few years it had little to do with fuel consumption


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Unread postPosted: June 12, 2017, 8:37 am 
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jzcleve wrote:
Were there issues with the Pineglen? Seems like the Oak, Cedar or
Spruceglen would have been more likely candidates. Remember seeing her as the the Paterson under the huletts here in Cleveland up until they were dismantled as well.

Apparently the Pineglen burns a lot of fuel compared to the Cedarglan. Oakglens days are numbered.


Why are the Oakglen's days numbered? I don't think it suffers from the same fuel issues as the Pineglen, nor have I heard about any chronic structural issues. You may very well be right, I'm just wondering how you reached your conclusion.


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