by BigRiver » February 18, 2011, 6:48 pm
The 1960s are very confusing. Sometimes the same book (insides) had two different covers. Other times, if there were a lot of copies left over from a previous year, a new cover was slapped on with a new title page and date.
Here's the lowdown on different editions as far as I can tell by looking at my collection, and from what I can remember from when I was growing up hanging around Tom Manse.
1959- first edition.
1961 - To my knowledge, not published that year.
1963 - one cover says Know Your Ships, the other says The Soo Locks. Each has the Ernest R. Breech on the cover and are the same inside. However I also have a copy of the 1963 book which has the Soo Locks cover, but with Scott Misener on the cover.
The Soo Locks edition was to be sold specifically in the locks area. (In 1965, Tom Manse came out with a completely different book called The Soo Locks, which had no vessel listings, but lots of pictures and information about the Soo Locks and area. It was basically a tourist guide.)
1964 - Similar to 1963. The same photo of the Scott Misener as was used in 1963 is on the cover of both The Soo Locks and Know Your Ships. This insides are the same.
1965 - Know Your Ships has the Philip R Clarke on one cover and Saguenay on the other. The insides are the same. This was done to try and increase sales in Canada by having a Canadian boat on the cover.The Saguenay cover edition in very rare.
1968 - A.H. Ferbert on one cover, Sir Denys Lowson on the other. The insides are the same. Again, this was done to try and increase sales in Canada by having a Canadian boat on the cover. The Lowson cover edition in very rare.
1969 - Edward L. Ryerson on the cover. However I also have another book with the Ryerson on the cover that contains the 1968 book, with a wraparound on yellow paper saying it is the 1970 edition "updated." Yes, very confusing. I can only assume Tom Manse had a lot of old books left, so he put new covers on them and reduced the price.
1970 - there are two books. One cover has a saltie called Ioanna V on the cover, but the inside is just the 1969 book with a yellow sheet bound in containing listings updates (this sold for $1). Tom must have had a lot of copies of the 1969 book left over and didn't want them to go to waste.Then there was an actual 1970 book that was all new, with the Arthur B. Homer on the cover ($1.50).
1974 has the Stewart J. Cort on the cover, but another edition features the Duluth tour boat Vista Queen on the cover. This edition was done specifically for the Vista Fleet to sell on board their tour boats, and the first four pages of the book contain information on the Duluth area. Otherwise, both books are the same.
1975 - Two different covers, Ralph Misener and Ste. Claire. The Ste. Claire cover may have been done to sell the book aboard the BobLo boats. The insides are the same.
1978 - There are two covers for 1978, one with the Black Bay and the other with the Helen Evans. The Black Bay cover was done as a favor to Canada Steamship Lines and not too many were printed. The insides are the same.
After 1978, things settled down and there was only 1 book/cover each year.
As far as the edition numbering goes, I had never noticed that. Not having a 1961 edition probably messed things up as well.
The 1960s are very confusing. Sometimes the same book (insides) had two different covers. Other times, if there were a lot of copies left over from a previous year, a new cover was slapped on with a new title page and date.
Here's the lowdown on different editions as far as I can tell by looking at my collection, and from what I can remember from when I was growing up hanging around Tom Manse.
1959- first edition.
1961 - To my knowledge, not published that year.
1963 - one cover says Know Your Ships, the other says The Soo Locks. Each has the Ernest R. Breech on the cover and are the same inside. However I also have a copy of the 1963 book which has the Soo Locks cover, but with Scott Misener on the cover.
The Soo Locks edition was to be sold specifically in the locks area. (In 1965, Tom Manse came out with a completely different book called The Soo Locks, which had no vessel listings, but lots of pictures and information about the Soo Locks and area. It was basically a tourist guide.)
1964 - Similar to 1963. The same photo of the Scott Misener as was used in 1963 is on the cover of both The Soo Locks and Know Your Ships. This insides are the same.
1965 - Know Your Ships has the Philip R Clarke on one cover and Saguenay on the other. The insides are the same. This was done to try and increase sales in Canada by having a Canadian boat on the cover.The Saguenay cover edition in very rare.
1968 - A.H. Ferbert on one cover, Sir Denys Lowson on the other. The insides are the same. Again, this was done to try and increase sales in Canada by having a Canadian boat on the cover. The Lowson cover edition in very rare.
1969 - Edward L. Ryerson on the cover. However I also have another book with the Ryerson on the cover that contains the 1968 book, with a wraparound on yellow paper saying it is the 1970 edition "updated." Yes, very confusing. I can only assume Tom Manse had a lot of old books left, so he put new covers on them and reduced the price.
1970 - there are two books. One cover has a saltie called Ioanna V on the cover, but the inside is just the 1969 book with a yellow sheet bound in containing listings updates (this sold for $1). Tom must have had a lot of copies of the 1969 book left over and didn't want them to go to waste.Then there was an actual 1970 book that was all new, with the Arthur B. Homer on the cover ($1.50).
1974 has the Stewart J. Cort on the cover, but another edition features the Duluth tour boat Vista Queen on the cover. This edition was done specifically for the Vista Fleet to sell on board their tour boats, and the first four pages of the book contain information on the Duluth area. Otherwise, both books are the same.
1975 - Two different covers, Ralph Misener and Ste. Claire. The Ste. Claire cover may have been done to sell the book aboard the BobLo boats. The insides are the same.
1978 - There are two covers for 1978, one with the Black Bay and the other with the Helen Evans. The Black Bay cover was done as a favor to Canada Steamship Lines and not too many were printed. The insides are the same.
After 1978, things settled down and there was only 1 book/cover each year.
As far as the edition numbering goes, I had never noticed that. Not having a 1961 edition probably messed things up as well.