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Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Jared » September 19, 2014, 4:55 pm

There is a small off of Milwaukee in 250ft of water that could be in the realm of possibility to be the North Shore.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by William Lafferty » September 19, 2014, 4:34 pm

The first major all electrically welded lake vessel that was actually built on the lakes was the tanker Transiter (later Transtream) built in 1935 at Fort Erie, Ontario, by Horton Iron Works Ltd.
Although what constitutes "major" is certainly debatable, I'm still going to stick with the North Shore, five years earlier, launched 24 June 1930 at Milwaukee, and, according to a Door County Advocate article of 20 June 1930, "Every joint and seam is arc welded."

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Jay Bascom » September 19, 2014, 2:18 pm

The first major all electrically welded lake vessel that was actually built on the lakes was the tanker Transiter (later Transtream) built in 1935 at Fort Erie, Ontario, by Horton Iron Works Ltd.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Rob » September 19, 2014, 10:15 am

garbear wrote:
Rob wrote:The SS Badger and her sister ship SS Spartan were welded above the car deck but riveted below. I believe their approximate build dates are 1963 and 1954.
They both were launched in 1952.

Sorry, my bad. 1963 is obviously a typo.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Guest » September 16, 2014, 10:41 pm

No, that was the second North Shore, built by Burger Boat Company (in 30 days) to replace the first. This North Shore had a long life between Washington Island and Beaver Island.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Middle rouge » September 16, 2014, 9:17 pm

William Lafferty wrote:
Has the North Shore ever been found?
No, and I don't know if anyone has ever actually looked for the vessel. It sank in the storm that took the Salvor while heading from St. Joseph to Milwaukee with grapes, with the loss of six lives. It was supposedly sighted a few miles off Racine before the foundering, which would be water about 150-400 feet deep depending how far east it sank. It would be a small sonar target at 65 feet.
http://michiganshipwrecks.org/shipwreck ... northshore

Is this her?

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by William Lafferty » September 16, 2014, 6:46 pm

Has the North Shore ever been found?
No, and I don't know if anyone has ever actually looked for the vessel. It sank in the storm that took the Salvor while heading from St. Joseph to Milwaukee with grapes, with the loss of six lives. It was supposedly sighted a few miles off Racine before the foundering, which would be water about 150-400 feet deep depending how far east it sank. It would be a small sonar target at 65 feet.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by William Lafferty » September 16, 2014, 4:50 pm

Look up Dorothea m. Geary, Worlds first arc welded vessel built in Ashtabula in 1915.
The Geary, though, was not completely electrically welded: Its keel, deck house, and framing were riveted, while its hull and deck plating were welded.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Middle rouge » September 16, 2014, 4:27 pm

Look up Dorothea m. Geary, Worlds first arc welded vessel built in Ashtabula in 1915. In process of being restored
36'6" long tugboat

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Guest » September 15, 2014, 10:24 pm

William Lafferty wrote:I suppose the first completely electrically-welded vessel would be the ill-fated fruit boat North Shore, built 1930 by Mertes-Miller Company at Milwaukee, a boiler works that early embraced welding technology. It was closely followed by the fish tug Jean R. built that year by the Leathem D. Smith Dock Company at Sturgeon Bay. Both, I believe, were designed by William Haertl.
Has the North Shore ever been found?

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by garbear » September 15, 2014, 3:11 pm

Rob wrote:The SS Badger and her sister ship SS Spartan were welded above the car deck but riveted below. I believe their approximate build dates are 1963 and 1954.
They both were launched in 1952.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Rob » September 15, 2014, 10:15 am

The SS Badger and her sister ship SS Spartan were welded above the car deck but riveted below. I believe their approximate build dates are 1963 and 1954.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by William Lafferty » September 15, 2014, 10:05 am

I suppose the first completely electrically-welded vessel would be the ill-fated fruit boat North Shore, built 1930 by Mertes-Miller Company at Milwaukee, a boiler works that early embraced welding technology. It was closely followed by the fish tug Jean R. built that year by the Leathem D. Smith Dock Company at Sturgeon Bay. Both, I believe, were designed by William Haertl.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Al » September 15, 2014, 8:44 am

Not sure about the first all-welded ship, but electric welding was used extensively on the Governor Miller, William A. Irvin, John Hulst and Ralph H. Watson in 1937. Welding also was used a lot on the various warships (particularly the submarines), freighters and auxiliaries built on the lakes during WW II.

Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel

by Shipwatcher1 » September 15, 2014, 5:59 am

Correct me if wrong, but I believe the Ryerson from 1960 is welded

1st welded great lakes vessel

by guest » September 15, 2014, 3:15 am

Which boat was the first welded vessel constructed on the great lakes? The Cort, P.I., or early ASC aft ender?
TIA.

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