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by **guest** » June 17, 2019, 7:02 pm

Nathan S departed Escanaba, this evening.

by **Paul A** » June 15, 2019, 9:34 pm

Guest wrote:
Bob wrote:I don’t understand why they are using an old boom on a new build. Even though they are going to refurbish it I would’ve thought they would want a brand new one to go with the new ship. I’m sure they are saving some money by doing this.
What goes into refurbishing? I'm assuming sandblasting it will be one of the steps.

Refurbishing would be replacing all the bearings on rollers and servicing the transmission and drive motor that powers the belt. The truss itself is a savings because the labor to fabricate one costs many times the materials involved.

by **Chris M** » June 15, 2019, 8:30 pm

Must be worth the savings. Look at the Ashtabula having the boom from the Joseph H Frantz

by **Guest** » June 15, 2019, 3:32 pm

Bob wrote:I don’t understand why they are using an old boom on a new build. Even though they are going to refurbish it I would’ve thought they would want a brand new one to go with the new ship. I’m sure they are saving some money by doing this.

What goes into refurbishing? I'm assuming sandblasting it will be one of the steps.

by **Bob** » June 15, 2019, 11:21 am

I don’t understand why they are using an old boom on a new build. Even though they are going to refurbish it I would’ve thought they would want a brand new one to go with the new ship. I’m sure they are saving some money by doing this.

by **Guest** » June 14, 2019, 8:36 pm

So it's going into their newbuild?

That's a bit of a surprise. I don't remember the person around here that wondered if that was going to happen, but I remember telling them it was unlikely that Interlake would bother going with this used boom.

I guessed wrong, apparently. :)

by **McCoy** » June 14, 2019, 12:46 pm

The American Victory Boom has arrived in Sturgeon Bay. It was a pleasure to work with Interlake and Fraser Shipyard in the boom removal process and Bryan at Logistic Management to get the boom safely loaded and secured on the barge.

Looking forward to working with Bayship and Interlake on getting it refurbished, modified and reinstalled.

by **Guest** » June 14, 2019, 11:54 am

Darryl wrote:Neat little video. I wonder what that smoke stake is for on the barge? You don't see something like that much anymore. Hopefully they got to Sturgeon Bay before Lake Michigan got those gale warning waves. Not much freeboard on the barge.

It's probably an anchoring spud.

by **Darryl** » June 14, 2019, 9:46 am

Neat little video. I wonder what that smoke stake is for on the barge? You don't see something like that much anymore. Hopefully they got to Sturgeon Bay before Lake Michigan got those gale warning waves. Not much freeboard on the barge.

by **JohnH** » June 13, 2019, 8:38 am

Video of the Nathan S leaving Duluth, June 11 with Boom on the barge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr16UnlJbJM

by **Charlie** » June 12, 2019, 10:29 pm

the boats i have been in there is a clamp that hooks on to the boom in its cradle an you tighten a nut. I sure in spring and fall they might tighten it better then finger tight

where you see the legs on the bottom of the boom that sits in the deck legs [cradle] is where they clamp them

as far as i know they have gotten away from cable for tie down

charlie

by **garbear** » June 12, 2019, 7:09 pm

Mr Link wrote:The boom is currently at Fraser Shipyard in Superior WI and is about (or may have already) to start its delivery trip to Sturgeon Bay.

They're already East of the Keweenaw heading East.

by **Mr Link** » June 12, 2019, 7:03 pm

The boom is currently at Fraser Shipyard in Superior WI and is about (or may have already) to start its delivery trip to Sturgeon Bay.

by **drydock** » June 12, 2019, 6:41 pm

I was in Sturgeon Bay this past weekend and I did not see a boom anywhere at Bay Ship?

by **Guest** » June 12, 2019, 4:08 pm

Darryl wrote:Two questions about the Boom to be used on the Interlake new build.

In the old days, the steamship lines would sell boats, etc.,. amongst themselves, but since competition is pretty stiff nowadays, I was a little surprised that American Steamship let a boom off one of their ships go to probably their main competitor. Or did they have no control over this, once the boat was sold to the Canadians?

Secondly, would not it been a heck of a lot cheaper to just lay that boom on the deck of a downbound Interlake ship and drop it off on the way down to the southern end of Lake Michigan? TIA

In regards to the second part of your post. Yes, that probably could have been done, but what about the time (revenue) lost in doing so by utilizing an active freighter? The boom is probably much better secured to the barge than it would be as deck cargo. Remember that the booms on self-unloaders are attached to the main structure of the ship. However, I don't know how they are lashed down when not in use, but I would assume that there are some cables used to keep the boom from moving along with a shackle for the boom legs to fit into but someone with better knowledge than I can probably explain it better.

by **Guest** » June 12, 2019, 3:58 pm

Darryl wrote:Two questions about the Boom to be used on the Interlake new build.

In the old days, the steamship lines would sell boats, etc.,. amongst themselves, but since competition is pretty stiff nowadays, I was a little surprised that American Steamship let a boom off one of their ships go to probably their main competitor. Or did they have no control over this, once the boat was sold to the Canadians?

Secondly, would not it been a heck of a lot cheaper to just lay that boom on the deck of a downbound Interlake ship and drop it off on the way down to the southern end of Lake Michigan? TIA

Algoma sold the boom.

To bring the boom down on a laker that ship would have to deviate from it's run to deliver that boom. You'd have to arrange a crane to load and then unload the boom from a footer sized slip. There would also need to be some minor work done then removed from the laker, tackle to lash the boom to the deck. Less arrangements would be needed for a shallow draft, pre-rigged, deck barge.

by **Darryl** » June 12, 2019, 2:03 pm

Two questions about the Boom to be used on the Interlake new build.

In the old days, the steamship lines would sell boats, etc.,... amongst themselves, but since competition is pretty stiff nowadays, I was a little surprised that American Steamship let a boom off one of their ships go to probably their main competitor. Or did they have no control over this, once the boat was sold to the Canadians?

Secondly, would not it been a heck of a lot cheaper to just lay that boom on the deck of a downbound Interlake ship and drop it off on the way down to the southern end of Lake Michigan? TIA

by **JohnH** » June 12, 2019, 9:29 am

Nathan S and barge at Fraser Shipyard in Superior, WI with boom loaded June 11.

by **Todd Shorkey** » June 3, 2019, 4:21 pm

Thank you for the information!

by **MMGuest** » June 3, 2019, 5:54 am

The Nathan S picked up a barge that they are taking up to Superior and then deliver the boom to Sturgeon Bay.

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