by geysir » April 6, 2021, 4:00 pm
Brian Ferguson wrote:sam wrote:Changing the employment terms once they are underway? Modern day Shanghaiing. If true this will be a large legal problem for Rand.
Them boats are work boats. I know, I worked on them. Back aways they cut the crew by four guys - two on deck, two in the engineroom. Docking once a day or two, hosing cargo holds, shifting. Now with the hedge fund they gonna want the same workers running gates, because you're guaranteed 12 hours a day. Can be inhuman. I don't know how guys would hold up. Older ABs asked to jump back down into heavy physical labor. Bless their hearts, but gotta compete.
Oddly enough when I worked on her as the Earl W. Oglebay in 2004 she had the biggest crew of any ship I sailed on. She had 1 porter and 2 gatemen, she also had 3 deckhands. There was a total crew of 27 or 29, only ship I shared a room on. On the Burns Harbor there was 24 of us, on the Roger Blough I think there was about 22. Undaunted there was 10.
When the boat first came out in 1973, run by Steinbrenner, I believe we had a crew of 21. Two deckhands and a 1-person galley. Mostly, we had frozen dinners. I sailed on it again in 1978 when run by Oglebay Norton (Pringle). Crew size bumped up considerably with an additional bunk in one room and the rec room turned into a 3-man room. The 2-deckhand setup changed to 3 deckhands and a bosun.
[quote="Brian Ferguson"][quote="sam"][quote]Changing the employment terms once they are underway? Modern day Shanghaiing. If true this will be a large legal problem for Rand.[/quote]
Them boats are work boats. I know, I worked on them. Back aways they cut the crew by four guys - two on deck, two in the engineroom. Docking once a day or two, hosing cargo holds, shifting. Now with the hedge fund they gonna want the same workers running gates, because you're guaranteed 12 hours a day. Can be inhuman. I don't know how guys would hold up. Older ABs asked to jump back down into heavy physical labor. Bless their hearts, but gotta compete.[/quote]
Oddly enough when I worked on her as the Earl W. Oglebay in 2004 she had the biggest crew of any ship I sailed on. She had 1 porter and 2 gatemen, she also had 3 deckhands. There was a total crew of 27 or 29, only ship I shared a room on. On the Burns Harbor there was 24 of us, on the Roger Blough I think there was about 22. Undaunted there was 10.[/quote]
When the boat first came out in 1973, run by Steinbrenner, I believe we had a crew of 21. Two deckhands and a 1-person galley. Mostly, we had frozen dinners. I sailed on it again in 1978 when run by Oglebay Norton (Pringle). Crew size bumped up considerably with an additional bunk in one room and the rec room turned into a 3-man room. The 2-deckhand setup changed to 3 deckhands and a bosun.