Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
The tonnage bonus is a thing of the long past. IMO Pilots do have to deal with a variety of different vessels and crews. That said Masters can switch vessels and run any boat they get on and are responsible for crew management dealing with customers , the office. Setting up winter work list. Maintenance of their vessels USCG ABS ect. Whenever training future Captains we always tell them once you learn to "run" "handle" the boat you've done the easy part now you get to deal with all the everyday BS. The Pilots do a good job but all they have to worry about is navigating to from and making the dock. They also have strict rules about sleep times and late in the year will sometimes operate only during daylight operations. The lake pilots do their own handling which in a lot of areas a harbor pilot will come on. They both do sometimes difficult jobs. The senior pilots can make a lot of money.
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
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There are definitely bonuses attached to tonnage performance.
If the customer requires 1 Million tonnes this season, the companies do incentivize the meeting of their customer's goals. Some Captain's performance bonus is in the same ballpark as signing bonuses.[/quote]
That may be true at some companies, but not all. If the ship is directed by a traffic office on which cargoes to carry, how could his choices impact how much tonnage is carried. There may be a performance bonus influenced by how well the company does... but it likely isn't tied to a certain vessels' tons carried. The Captain isn't dispatching the vessel.
There are definitely bonuses attached to tonnage performance.
If the customer requires 1 Million tonnes this season, the companies do incentivize the meeting of their customer's goals. Some Captain's performance bonus is in the same ballpark as signing bonuses.[/quote]
That may be true at some companies, but not all. If the ship is directed by a traffic office on which cargoes to carry, how could his choices impact how much tonnage is carried. There may be a performance bonus influenced by how well the company does... but it likely isn't tied to a certain vessels' tons carried. The Captain isn't dispatching the vessel.
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
Pilots of the North West: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-31OxH340
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
There are definitely bonuses attached to tonnage performance.Guest146 wrote:That is not true.Guest wrote:I've never worked on the lakes but I've been told that captains a payed based off the tonage they haul. Is that true?RCRVRP wrote:In a different thread pilots were discussed so I looked on the net to see what pilots are paid. Looks like 300 to 600 dollars an hour. Some pilots making several hundred thousand a year.
In another place it said captains make 135,000 a year and up.
Do pilots routinely make more than captains?
Seems odd if thats true.
If the customer requires 1 Million tonnes this season, the companies do incentivize the meeting of their customer's goals. Some Captain's performance bonus is in the same ballpark as signing bonuses.
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
Ah it seems I was hazed...Guest146 wrote: That is not true.
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
That is not true.Guest wrote:I've never worked on the lakes but I've been told that captains a payed based off the tonage they haul. Is that true?RCRVRP wrote:In a different thread pilots were discussed so I looked on the net to see what pilots are paid. Looks like 300 to 600 dollars an hour. Some pilots making several hundred thousand a year.
In another place it said captains make 135,000 a year and up.
Do pilots routinely make more than captains?
Seems odd if thats true.
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
I've never worked on the lakes but I've been told that captains a payed based off the tonage they haul. Is that true?RCRVRP wrote:In a different thread pilots were discussed so I looked on the net to see what pilots are paid. Looks like 300 to 600 dollars an hour. Some pilots making several hundred thousand a year.
In another place it said captains make 135,000 a year and up.
Do pilots routinely make more than captains?
Seems odd if thats true.
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
Not sure of the hourly compensation $306-730. I believe the pilots are salaried and are substantially higher than a captain yearly. Federally regulated 367k. I remember for a while the GL pilots were behind the curve on compensation but received an adjustment/boost in recent years to be more on par with other pilot associations.. could be different per area/district?
As far as captains I believe 135,000 is low low end, depends on extra vacation maybe. Closer to 170-180 I’ve heard is my guess. Maybe this wage hasn’t kept up with the times and adjusted like the pilots have. Seems low considering the Great Lakes captain/master are also pilots aswell of their own boat in the same waterways, also have the entire responsibility of the vessel and crew 24/7.
Either way both are highly skilled and specialized positions with a tremendous amount of responsibility.. but yes this does seem odd RCRVRP. Maybe work schedule/time off is a factor?
https://www.professionalmariner.com/gre ... -in-a-row/
As far as captains I believe 135,000 is low low end, depends on extra vacation maybe. Closer to 170-180 I’ve heard is my guess. Maybe this wage hasn’t kept up with the times and adjusted like the pilots have. Seems low considering the Great Lakes captain/master are also pilots aswell of their own boat in the same waterways, also have the entire responsibility of the vessel and crew 24/7.
Either way both are highly skilled and specialized positions with a tremendous amount of responsibility.. but yes this does seem odd RCRVRP. Maybe work schedule/time off is a factor?
https://www.professionalmariner.com/gre ... -in-a-row/
Re: Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
Yes, it is standard for a pilot to make more than a captain. Nature of how pilots associations function. Each pilot is a part owner.RCRVRP wrote:In a different thread pilots were discussed so I looked on the net to see what pilots are paid. Looks like 300 to 600 dollars an hour. Some pilots making several hundred thousand a year.
In another place it said captains make 135,000 a year and up.
Do pilots routinely make more than captains?
Seems odd if thats true.
135,000 is on the extreme low end for a captain. He'd have to be working an equal time schedule to be that low.
Pilot pay vs Captains pay.
In a different thread pilots were discussed so I looked on the net to see what pilots are paid. Looks like 300 to 600 dollars an hour. Some pilots making several hundred thousand a year.
In another place it said captains make 135,000 a year and up.
Do pilots routinely make more than captains?
Seems odd if thats true.
In another place it said captains make 135,000 a year and up.
Do pilots routinely make more than captains?
Seems odd if thats true.