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 Post subject: Re: Ryerson
Unread postPosted: June 16, 2021, 8:49 pm 

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No, she was moved from the the slip she was in for dredging, nothing else. Once they're done with the dredging she'll be moved back.


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Unread postPosted: June 16, 2021, 2:17 pm 
Just heard from a guy that works at Fraser, the Ryerson has been moved to facilitate parts removal. In other words, they appear to be taking parts off the Ryerson for the Sykes and Block. Anyone else hear anything like this? This is bad news if true, got to mean she'll never sail again.


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Unread postPosted: May 22, 2021, 1:57 pm 
I did hear a rumor that she was going to get a 5 year inspection and sail again, but according to a Fraser worker they are not even going to pump the drydock. It is only there for a standby berth till the dredging is done.


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Unread postPosted: May 22, 2021, 1:49 pm 

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algoma central vessels are a lot more economical to operate than the ryerson. it could never compete cost wise


During recent years Algoma has consistently deployed three of its oldest and presumably less efficient gearless bulk carriers, Algoma Discovery, Algoma Guardian, and Algoma Spirit to move iron ore pellets from western Lake Superior to Hamilton and Quebec City. One of those three ships is retired now, and the other two are likely not that far behind. As of now it seems like Algoma is only adding one new gearless bulker to its fleet during the same general period that the three older ships are or will be retired.

At Seaway draft, the iron ore pellet carrying capacity of the Ryerson is almost exactly the same as any one of those three older Algoma bulkers. If the Ryerson's hull and holds are in good shape, a repowering would likely make her just as efficient or perhaps more efficient on the Seaway ore trade than some of the vessels currently making those runs.


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Unread postPosted: May 21, 2021, 9:35 pm 
algoma central vessels are a lot more economical to operate than the ryerson. it could never compete cost wise


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Unread postPosted: May 21, 2021, 2:08 pm 
She will only make sense if she goes through the canal to Hamilton or out the Seaway!


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Unread postPosted: May 20, 2021, 3:52 pm 
Beautiful boat but 25,000 ton iron ore capacity would be tough to work on a long haul vs a footer. Burns way more fuel per ton carried, takes twice as long to unload (and that's usually at OT rates), and probably needs 3 A/E and 3 QMED's. Add in the breakout costs which would be multi millions.

With more coal plants closing in the next few years, she would face some really aggressive competition.


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Unread postPosted: May 20, 2021, 9:39 am 
This is just a thought, but even though Cleveland has no equipment to unload a straight decker, CSL straight deckers regularly unload titanium slag in Ashtabula using shoreside cranes. Ashtabula is used as a transshipment point for iron ore en route to Cleveland, so maybe a straight decker unloading ore there isn’t out of the question in the future.


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Unread postPosted: May 19, 2021, 4:22 pm 
I thought the exemption ran to 2025, then I tried to find the ruling and couldn't.

If the hull is in good shape, sooner or later that will be of value. Especially with the price of steel today. The steam plant though will be very expensive to bring back to life and then operate.


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Unread postPosted: May 19, 2021, 3:27 pm 
She is, but isn't there a sunset date on the exemption? Also, with the cost of new builds in the US, wouldn't it still be cost effective to do the conversion by someone who has the order book to support it and ships hitting the 70 yrs old that have been run every single year?


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Unread postPosted: May 18, 2021, 8:17 pm 
Isn't the Ryerson part of the group of US Flag steamers exempted from the emission stds?


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Unread postPosted: May 18, 2021, 7:59 pm 
She’ll never run again, there’s too much money to be spent on her such as a new power plant and unloading equipment. If they turned her into a self unloaded then that would cut the tonnage she could haul and they would be losing money on each run. This is my opinion and my opinion only but I truly believe that the next time we see her on the lake she’ll be heading for scrap.


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Unread postPosted: May 18, 2021, 3:51 pm 
hospitaller wrote:
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the csl niagara and the algoma niagara both have exhaust scrubbers. does the s.s. ryerson have?

I don't think the exhaust scrubber technology is compatible with HFO.


It very much is. All of the Interlake boats with scrubbers run HFO.


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Unread postPosted: May 18, 2021, 12:49 pm 
guest wrote:
the csl niagara and the algoma niagara both have exhaust scrubbers. does the s.s. ryerson have?

I don't think the exhaust scrubber technology is compatible with HFO.


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Unread postPosted: May 18, 2021, 9:27 am 
the csl niagara and the algoma niagara both have exhaust scrubbers. does the s.s. ryerson have?


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