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Guest wrote:Cliffs Does have a plan for the Ryerson pending market conditions. Joe Block life boat is at Sturgeon Bay with with a note on it. "Save equipment for Ryerson"

Storage is cheap and technical superintendents (who have little if any input or visibility into commercial decision making) hate to throw stuff away.

It's not unusual to find parts for long-gone vessels in shipping company's warehouses.

Cliffs Does have a plan for the Ryerson pending market conditions. Joe Block life boat is at Sturgeon Bay with with a note on it. "Save equipment for Ryerson"

badger wrote:dock side cranes like in lorain are fine, but with a 36hr unload time who is paying for the demurage?

The unload time would be baked into the per-day rate, with laytime set accordingly. If there is demurrage, it's on the charterer's account.

The Ryerson isn't going to sail commercially again, unless she's re-engined and converted to a self unloader. There's just no market for an aging straightback like that.

Ok, this is a very out there question, but...

With the high cost of a new vessel and the fleet aging, any chance she could have a new mid body built? Maybe go 800 foot ? I know she is steam, but everyone says she is in such good shape.

I would imagine there were would have to be a significant increase in the demand for export iron ore shipments to bring the Ryerson back into service. The longer voyages through the Seaway largely offset its lack of self-unloading gear in comparison to the relatively short distances traveled between ports on Lake Superior and the receiving ports on the lower lakes. Over longer distances, the time saved by the ability to self-unload is offset by the additional tonnage carried by a vessel without the added weight and reduced carrying capacity imposed by the unloading gear. As the Canadian fleet is optimized for Seaway service, that is why Algoma and CSL continue to build straight deck bulk carriers. I once created a basic mathematical model demonstrating the advantages of gearless carriers to self-unloaders through the Seaway and it was pretty obvious as to why the Canadian fleet is a mix of straight deckers and self-unloaders and the US fleet is not. As cargoes become tighter on the lakes, it is possible, although probably unlikely, that this could change in the US fleet.

dock side cranes like in lorain are fine, but with a 36hr unload time who is paying for the demurage?

If they were just moving it to another dock wouldn’t they have moved it to the frog pond instead of putting it in dry dock?

If Lourenco Goncalves thinks they can make money by running the Ryerson, it will happen. But by seeing Mr. Goncalves on the news here in Duluth it won't ever run for nostalgia sake. Has to be money to be made with her.

It was moved this afternoon (May 10, 2021).

RogerKYS wrote:The Ryerson is being moved to another dock so the dock she is at can be dredged. Also, she can be unloaded at Hamilton and Quebec City, a run she did a few times the last time she ran. And there is also the Lorain option with dockside cranes

The old standby is she can unload in Hamilton and Quebec City. Looks like there's more than enough Canadian traffic that can service those 2 ports.

its a long steam from quebec city to duluth with no backhaul

The Ryerson is being moved to another dock so the dock she is at can be dredged. Also, she can be unloaded at Hamilton and Quebec City, a run she did a few times the last time she ran. And there is also the Lorain option with dockside cranes

With Cliffs owning her now there aren't any Cliffs ports she could service unless she was unloaded like she was in Lorain. Not the most practical way to unload. I could see her going to scrap, but we'll see.

scrap prices on the rise

Heard rumors that the Ryerson is moving soon?