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 Post subject: Re: Ryerson
Unread postPosted: May 11, 2021, 8:50 am 
I would imagine there were would have to be a significant increase in the demand for export iron ore shipments to bring the Ryerson back into service. The longer voyages through the Seaway largely offset its lack of self-unloading gear in comparison to the relatively short distances traveled between ports on Lake Superior and the receiving ports on the lower lakes. Over longer distances, the time saved by the ability to self-unload is offset by the additional tonnage carried by a vessel without the added weight and reduced carrying capacity imposed by the unloading gear. As the Canadian fleet is optimized for Seaway service, that is why Algoma and CSL continue to build straight deck bulk carriers. I once created a basic mathematical model demonstrating the advantages of gearless carriers to self-unloaders through the Seaway and it was pretty obvious as to why the Canadian fleet is a mix of straight deckers and self-unloaders and the US fleet is not. As cargoes become tighter on the lakes, it is possible, although probably unlikely, that this could change in the US fleet.


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 9:19 pm 
dock side cranes like in lorain are fine, but with a 36hr unload time who is paying for the demurage?


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 9:14 pm 
If they were just moving it to another dock wouldn’t they have moved it to the frog pond instead of putting it in dry dock?


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 5:15 pm 
If Lourenco Goncalves thinks they can make money by running the Ryerson, it will happen. But by seeing Mr. Goncalves on the news here in Duluth it won't ever run for nostalgia sake. Has to be money to be made with her.


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 4:40 pm 
It was moved this afternoon (May 10, 2021).


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 3:20 pm 
RogerKYS wrote:
The Ryerson is being moved to another dock so the dock she is at can be dredged. Also, she can be unloaded at Hamilton and Quebec City, a run she did a few times the last time she ran. And there is also the Lorain option with dockside cranes


The old standby is she can unload in Hamilton and Quebec City. Looks like there's more than enough Canadian traffic that can service those 2 ports.


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 2:27 pm 
its a long steam from quebec city to duluth with no backhaul


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 1:30 pm 

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The Ryerson is being moved to another dock so the dock she is at can be dredged. Also, she can be unloaded at Hamilton and Quebec City, a run she did a few times the last time she ran. And there is also the Lorain option with dockside cranes


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 12:59 pm 
With Cliffs owning her now there aren't any Cliffs ports she could service unless she was unloaded like she was in Lorain. Not the most practical way to unload. I could see her going to scrap, but we'll see.


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 10:57 am 
scrap prices on the rise


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Unread postPosted: May 10, 2021, 7:37 am 
Heard rumors that the Ryerson is moving soon?


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