Canadian Miner

[Guest]

An interesting view of ship breaking in Bangladesh. Watch how one man is almost crushed by a large section of pipe falling.

[Guest]

Forecast has gale warnings from the northeast with seas up to 7 metres for Wednesday Oct 26.

Ron, are you related to Don Beaupre of the old Minnesota North Stars?

[fireman12]

Not much in the way of any recent news locally , no photos , stories , or anything else . The gale forecast for tomorrow may well be the final blow to the hull , and she`ll in all certainly be in more than once piece once it passes through the area .

[Ron Beaupre]

Forecast has gale warnings from the northeast with seas up to 7 metres for Wednesday Oct 26.

[Guest]

I noticed the hatch dogs on cargo hold 17 are not locked down. Any reason why they would leave the dogs open for a tow across the ocean?

TQ, in this picture taken just before the Miner started her trip, you can see hatch number 17 was fully clamped down. Waves are a powerful thing!

[fireman12]

Quite simply the flexing of that area of the hull , and as you can see , the subsequent break , flexed the hatch opening enough to pop them all off their clamped down positions , same as the hatch that was blown clear off earlier when the wreck was hit by the first storm .

[TQ]

I noticed the hatch dogs on cargo hold 17 are not locked down. Any reason why they would leave the dogs open for a tow across the ocean?

[Guest II]

Reality sets in. One is tempted to think that those boats (Lakers) are almost indestructible. But the breaking up of the Miner disproves that and reminds us how fragile they really can be. This hits closer to home than the salty breaking on the reef up near New Zeland. Again, the good news is that only the boat was lost,and it was on her way to the torch.

[hayhugh2]

Position is so desolated that transportation of workers/equipment and final removal of chosen parts would be much more expensive then same items from normal ship breakers (Port Weller etc.).

[wnyguest]

Looks like there is a lifeboat still on deck. Surprised that hasn't been salvaged, or has it by now?
Anyone going to get the horns off the stack?

Why not have the government hold an auction, at least recover some money. Bet a number of folks would love to have a chance to bid on and remove some items. At their own risk of course.
Could even auction off the fore and aft cabins, they would make a nice beach houses. Sold as is where is and you remove of course.

I think the government should take more a proactive part in this, it should be dismantled by Canadian workers, that ship would provide some good paying jobs for people to dismantle and recycle the parts.

[fireman12]

Here are some photos , and a video link of the wreck from around October 14th . They show clearly the obvious damage then , which is probably worse today because of the weather . Note the longitudinal crack in the deck around # 5 cargo hold . Obvious evidence of her pending breaking up , as well as the hole in the # 6 cargo hold by the far port side , only the outside stell plate left to give way .

http://www.capebretonpost.com/Video/151 ... rie-Island

[Randy S]

With strong sou`west winds to 25 knots until tomorrow PM , and that break alongside the ship side cargo hold opening , I`d say in all liklihood she`ll be closer to breaking into two in that area . Regarding the removal of contaminents , here`s a shot of where they may have to work , and how difficult it will be .

SW winds? If so, she should be fairly protected as I believe that she is sitting on the northern shore.

[Guest]

This Massive Hole on the side was Framing and Ribs,along with Shell plating,and Hull side walls,Where is that Iron now?is it just laying under the water were it sits?and it had to have happened on initial impact,or could the wind and waves tear that much iron apart after it hit the Beach?

Large waves can produce over 1000 tons of pressure per square yard.
A ship that's taking that kind of pressure on the beam, and being aground so it can not move, is going to sustain major damage, as we have seen first hand on the Miner.

[fireman12]

With strong sou`west winds to 25 knots until tomorrow PM , and that break alongside the ship side cargo hold opening , I`d say in all liklihood she`ll be closer to breaking into two in that area . Regarding the removal of contaminents , here`s a shot of where they may have to work , and how difficult it will be .

[hayhugh2]

Wind and wave action, and same will happen to other side if left alone.

[mn brett]

This Massive Hole on the side was Framing and Ribs,along with Shell plating,and Hull side walls,Where is that Iron now?is it just laying under the water were it sits?and it had to have happened on initial impact,or could the wind and waves tear that much iron apart after it hit the Beach?

[Mac Mackay]

The province of Nova Scotia has hired Mammoet to carry out an additional $250,000 to $400,000 of work cleaning up oil, removing other contaminents such as PCBs and asbestos and sealing all entrances to prevent looting.
It is not clear at this point if they can recover those costs from the Feds or from the bond posted by the tug owners.

[Jacques]

There should be no doubt about which level of government is responsible. In Canada maritime affairs including wrecks are under federal jurisdiction. The fact that it ends up on a provincial shoreline doesn't change this.

[Herb]

Perhaps this points to a long standing lapse in jurisdiction. The former "Grande Hermine" golette has been abandoned as a hulk at Jordan Harbout on the Queen Elizabeth Way in Lake Ontario for years with no level of government taking responsibility to remove it. It is expensive to remove so it never gets done. Its a thorw back to the pre-green times of disposing of refuse in large bodies of water.

[Guest5]

This was in the St. John's Newfoundland paper this morning about the Minor.
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Canada% ... ded-ship/1