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We're not talking about the ones that were on it while it was sailing, "at his own expense and time, made new Battle Ribbon boards for the wing of the bridge and had them installed to honor the vessel for its service during WW2" I'm sure the guy still has them and could provide pictures and more details. It just seems unlikely the tug crew would care, the way it was presented it make them look bad as if they acted with malice.

Unless this is the reason:
"If it’s true, which I doubt, it’s quite possible that Algoma did not want any identifying marks on the vessel, hence the Victo name. "

garbear wrote:Jerry was just reporting what he heard. Sounds like he's being grilled by a lawyer in court. What difference does it make who created the ribbons? More than likely you wouldn't know who it was anyway. Or why does it matter where they are now? There had been photos of the ribbons posted on Facebook and probably this site.

Jerry was just reporting what he heard. Sounds like he's being grilled by a lawyer in court. What difference does it make who created the ribbons? More than likely you wouldn't know who it was anyway. Or why does it matter where they are now? There had been photos of the ribbons posted on Facebook and probably this site.

Why would the tug crew have any say? McKiel didn't own the Victory. They were simply contracted to tow her out.

If it’s true, which I doubt, it’s quite possible that Algoma did not want any identifying marks on the vessel, hence the Victo name.

Jerry you're going to have to provide some proof, the tug had a long difficult tow ahead of them, why would they care about battle ribbons?

Who created the ribbon and where are they now?

Pictures please.

It is not BS folks, the man who reported it was standing there when the tug crew issued the order. What is hard to believe is why anyone would do something so mean spirited. I would welcome an explanation from the tug owners as to why this order was given. Was it their policy or the personal disrespect of the tug crew.

Jerry at Duluth wrote: The crew of the towing tug said that the vessel would not leave the harbor with those Battle Ribbons displayed and ordered them to be removed.

I've been on a few dead ship tows over the years and I call BS on that rumour? I'm sure the tug captain had a lot more important issues to worry about than battle ribbons being displayed?

Jon Paul wrote:Very sad indeed if true. Whether soldier, sailor or ship, those who sacrificed to defend our nation deserve our deep and abiding respect and appreciation without end. Her deeds will live on in memory and can't be diminished by lesser thoughtless people.

Even unknown soldiers are recognized for their service. To deny Victory the honor of wearing her earned awards on her final journey was an offense to her documented history.

Even if true (I am skeptical), one cannot condemn it without knowing the reason.

Very sad indeed if true. Whether soldier, sailor or ship, those who sacrificed to defend our nation deserve our deep and abiding respect and appreciation without end. Her deeds will live on in memory and can't be diminished by lesser thoughtless people.

At the monthly meeting of the Harbor Club of Duluth/Superior, it was announced that one of the men working to prepare the vessel for the tow had, at his own expense and time, made neSw Battle Ribbon boards for the wing of the bridge and had them installed to honor the vessel for its service during WW2. The crew of the towing tug said that the vessel would not leave the harbor with those Battle Ribbons displayed and ordered them to be removed. Very sad and disrespectful. On a brighter note, when the vessel passed the area of the Blue Water Bridge, there was a man on the shore playing TAPS. At lease someone paid a little respect to the vessel and its history.

Can you please post more information? Which items are available, photos, etc.?

Do you have a list of the items or pictures?
How did you get the items?

If anyone is interested in items from the S.S. American Victory I have many for sale from the vessel Many great items were saved from the vessel before it sailed out of the lakes last month.

Please call or text me at 812-661-7345

Thanks!