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Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 10, 2020, 10:58 am
by hugh3
The bars are still there, just not open, well there is still one open but its a biker bar now, not a seaman in sight...............
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 9, 2020, 5:17 pm
by ML
garbear wrote:hugh3 wrote:Go'n back: Do you remember when they used to provide a launch to get you from the ore dock across the slip so that ya didn't have to walk all the way around the coal dock? The good old days..
Saw the boat sitting there, but never saw it in use. That was one heck of a hike just to get to the top of the hill.
It just made me thirstier when I got uptown.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 9, 2020, 10:27 am
by Jon Paul
I had a bike which I carried down the boarding ladder and used that to get around in various ports.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 8, 2020, 12:26 pm
by garbear
hugh3 wrote:Go'n back: Do you remember when they used to provide a launch to get you from the ore dock across the slip so that ya didn't have to walk all the way around the coal dock? The good old days..
Saw the boat sitting there, but never saw it in use. That was one heck of a hike just to get to the top of the hill.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 8, 2020, 12:22 pm
by garbear
Guest wrote:garbear wrote:
Back in the day when the coal dock was open there was quite a tug presence in Conneaut. Always 2, sometimes 3 "G" tugs. The good old days.
That's going back a very long time as there haven't been tugs in Conneaut since at least the early 80s.
I sailed from 1971-79. When you say "a very long time", don't remind me. I was young back then.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 8, 2020, 12:12 pm
by Guest
I do remember the launch from when I sailed in the 60s.
My first time seeing the Canadian Century (Now John D Leitch) was in Conneaut. I was on the Calcite II, and I slept aft. After waking up one morning and walking to the galley via the fantail I was startled by the tall building directly on our stern - the forward end of the Canadian Century towering over the Calcite II.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 8, 2020, 9:59 am
by hugh3
Go'n back: Do you remember when they used to provide a launch to get you from the ore dock across the slip so that ya didn't have to walk all the way around the coal dock? The good old days...
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 8, 2020, 6:53 am
by Guest
garbear wrote:
Back in the day when the coal dock was open there was quite a tug presence in Conneaut. Always 2, sometimes 3 "G" tugs. The good old days.
That's going back a very long time as there haven't been tugs in Conneaut since at least the early 80s.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 7, 2020, 10:14 pm
by Jon Paul
Pazzo wrote:When PI arrived, between CSL transloads, Speer moved across the dock to the west face and PI backed into the east face dock. The slip doesn't look very big in video or satellite views, but there is sufficient room between two 100+ foot beam vessels.
For each Atlantic Huron's and Tadoussac's transload, GLT tug Iowa was on hand for a period of time to help the vessels readjust for the next hatch to be loaded.
I hope that answers your question, Jon Paul.
Thank you for the info. I new the slip was wide enough because we had waited on the west side for a coal load when the Blough was there at the hopper and there was plenty of room to spare. What confused things is one of the reports made it sound like the Transhipment was going on when the PI was there and I new that wouldn't fit.
I do remember unloading at P&C, B F Affleck was on the west side waiting with a load of limestone and the venerable Pinedale slipped right between us outbound with coal.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 7, 2020, 9:19 pm
by Guest
Speer moved out of the way and Presque Isle unloaded to the dock.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 7, 2020, 9:18 pm
by Pazzo
When PI arrived, between CSL transloads, Speer moved across the dock to the west face and PI backed into the east face dock. The slip doesn't look very big in video or satellite views, but there is sufficient room between two 100+ foot beam vessels.
For each Atlantic Huron's and Tadoussac's transload, GLT tug Iowa was on hand for a period of time to help the vessels readjust for the next hatch to be loaded.
I hope that answers your question, Jon Paul.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 7, 2020, 4:35 pm
by Jon Paul
To be more specific, did the Presque Isle come in and unload while the transhipment was going on or did they slip in and out between the Atlantic Huron leaving and the CSL Tadoussac loading?
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 7, 2020, 3:36 pm
by garbear
Jon Paul wrote:I'm hoping Pazzo can help layout how if the Speers was unloading into the CSL Tadoussac, the Presque Isle could possibly fit into the harbor and if they unloaded onto the transhipment pike?
I see the Presque Isle is already back at Detour.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 7, 2020, 11:36 am
by garbear
Pazzo wrote:Garbear- Iowa arrived from Ashtabula where she is stationed. Ashtabula seems to be a strong midway point between Cleveland and Erie for a timely response.
Denny- the Speer is awaiting CSL Tadoussac right now to discharge the balance of her load. Presque Isle looks to be discharging on the dock.
I was told that the receiving hopper was not functioning properly and as a result, Speer was made to transload directly into the Canadian vessels. However, I'm beginning to wonder if the loading conveyors might have been the issue.
Back in the day when the coal dock was open there was quite a tug presence in Conneaut. Always 2, sometimes 3 "G" tugs. The good old days.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 6, 2020, 10:33 pm
by Jon Paul
I'm hoping Pazzo can help layout how if the Speers was unloading into the CSL Tadoussac, the Presque Isle could possibly fit into the harbor and if they unloaded onto the transhipment pike?
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 5, 2020, 11:32 pm
by Pazzo
Garbear- Iowa arrived from Ashtabula where she is stationed. Ashtabula seems to be a strong midway point between Cleveland and Erie for a timely response.
Denny- the Speer is awaiting CSL Tadoussac right now to discharge the balance of her load. Presque Isle looks to be discharging on the dock.
I was told that the receiving hopper was not functioning properly and as a result, Speer was made to transload directly into the Canadian vessels. However, I'm beginning to wonder if the loading conveyors might have been the issue.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 5, 2020, 8:06 pm
by Denny
Noticed on Marine Traffic that the Speer is still in Conneaut and now the Presque Isle has arrived there too. Any possible transfers with these two behemoths and is the Presque Isle directly doing its unload in Conneaut or doing a ship-to-ship transfer of its unload? Any information is appreciated. Thanks.
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 5, 2020, 6:45 pm
by garbear
Pazzo wrote:This is my take on the two's intimate exchange, as taken from my drone. And for whatever it's worth, rumors on the shore say that CSL Tadoussac will be receiving the balance of the Speer's load. However, she is undergoing repairs on the River Rouge currently. I hope to have the time and weather to get some footage of that transload as well.
https://youtu.be/ca2ywV_TVWg
Is there a tug stationed in Conneaut anymore or does it come from Ashtabula?
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 5, 2020, 5:46 pm
by Pazzo
This is my take on the two's intimate exchange, as taken from my drone. And for whatever it's worth, rumors on the shore say that CSL Tadoussac will be receiving the balance of the Speer's load. However, she is undergoing repairs on the River Rouge currently. I hope to have the time and weather to get some footage of that transload as well.
https://youtu.be/ca2ywV_TVWg
Re: Speer and Huron
Posted: June 5, 2020, 5:38 pm
by hugh3