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Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 19, 2014, 4:55 pm
by Jared
There is a small off of Milwaukee in 250ft of water that could be in the realm of possibility to be the North Shore.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 19, 2014, 4:34 pm
by William Lafferty
The first major all electrically welded lake vessel that was actually built on the lakes was the tanker Transiter (later Transtream) built in 1935 at Fort Erie, Ontario, by Horton Iron Works Ltd.
Although what constitutes "major" is certainly debatable, I'm still going to stick with the
North Shore, five years earlier, launched 24 June 1930 at Milwaukee, and, according to a Door County
Advocate article of 20 June 1930, "Every joint and seam is arc welded."
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 19, 2014, 2:18 pm
by Jay Bascom
The first major all electrically welded lake vessel that was actually built on the lakes was the tanker Transiter (later Transtream) built in 1935 at Fort Erie, Ontario, by Horton Iron Works Ltd.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 19, 2014, 10:15 am
by Rob
garbear wrote:Rob wrote:The SS Badger and her sister ship SS Spartan were welded above the car deck but riveted below. I believe their approximate build dates are 1963 and 1954.
They both were launched in 1952.
Sorry, my bad. 1963 is obviously a typo.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 16, 2014, 10:41 pm
by Guest
No, that was the second North Shore, built by Burger Boat Company (in 30 days) to replace the first. This North Shore had a long life between Washington Island and Beaver Island.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 16, 2014, 9:17 pm
by Middle rouge
William Lafferty wrote:Has the North Shore ever been found?
No, and I don't know if anyone has ever actually looked for the vessel. It sank in the storm that took the
Salvor while heading from St. Joseph to Milwaukee with grapes, with the loss of six lives. It was supposedly sighted a few miles off Racine before the foundering, which would be water about 150-400 feet deep depending how far east it sank. It would be a small sonar target at 65 feet.
http://michiganshipwrecks.org/shipwreck ... northshore
Is this her?
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 16, 2014, 6:46 pm
by William Lafferty
Has the North Shore ever been found?
No, and I don't know if anyone has ever actually looked for the vessel. It sank in the storm that took the
Salvor while heading from St. Joseph to Milwaukee with grapes, with the loss of six lives. It was supposedly sighted a few miles off Racine before the foundering, which would be water about 150-400 feet deep depending how far east it sank. It would be a small sonar target at 65 feet.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 16, 2014, 4:50 pm
by William Lafferty
Look up Dorothea m. Geary, Worlds first arc welded vessel built in Ashtabula in 1915.
The
Geary, though, was not completely electrically welded: Its keel, deck house, and framing were riveted, while its hull and deck plating were welded.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 16, 2014, 4:27 pm
by Middle rouge
Look up Dorothea m. Geary, Worlds first arc welded vessel built in Ashtabula in 1915. In process of being restored
36'6" long tugboat
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 15, 2014, 10:24 pm
by Guest
William Lafferty wrote:I suppose the first completely electrically-welded vessel would be the ill-fated fruit boat North Shore, built 1930 by Mertes-Miller Company at Milwaukee, a boiler works that early embraced welding technology. It was closely followed by the fish tug Jean R. built that year by the Leathem D. Smith Dock Company at Sturgeon Bay. Both, I believe, were designed by William Haertl.
Has the North Shore ever been found?
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 15, 2014, 3:11 pm
by garbear
Rob wrote:The SS Badger and her sister ship SS Spartan were welded above the car deck but riveted below. I believe their approximate build dates are 1963 and 1954.
They both were launched in 1952.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 15, 2014, 10:15 am
by Rob
The SS Badger and her sister ship SS Spartan were welded above the car deck but riveted below. I believe their approximate build dates are 1963 and 1954.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 15, 2014, 10:05 am
by William Lafferty
I suppose the first completely electrically-welded vessel would be the ill-fated fruit boat North Shore, built 1930 by Mertes-Miller Company at Milwaukee, a boiler works that early embraced welding technology. It was closely followed by the fish tug Jean R. built that year by the Leathem D. Smith Dock Company at Sturgeon Bay. Both, I believe, were designed by William Haertl.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 15, 2014, 8:44 am
by Al
Not sure about the first all-welded ship, but electric welding was used extensively on the Governor Miller, William A. Irvin, John Hulst and Ralph H. Watson in 1937. Welding also was used a lot on the various warships (particularly the submarines), freighters and auxiliaries built on the lakes during WW II.
Re: 1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 15, 2014, 5:59 am
by Shipwatcher1
Correct me if wrong, but I believe the Ryerson from 1960 is welded
1st welded great lakes vessel
Posted: September 15, 2014, 3:15 am
by guest
Which boat was the first welded vessel constructed on the great lakes? The Cort, P.I., or early ASC aft ender?
TIA.