Cuyahoga Engine
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Chief1
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
As I think longer about the anbove incident, I believe it was the BUFFALO, while at Toledo.
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Chief1
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
Recall ASC’s m/v Nicolet suffered same type of casualty where flooding occurred in the conveyor tunnel due to unsecured strainer cover. This was due to a shore power outage issue that when power was restored an automatic valve fitted to the tunnel emergency fire pump cycled allowing water to enter the opened strainer. Situation was noticed early enough to prevent major flooding.
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Guest
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
I seem to recall posts on social media that claimed the main engine was at least partially, if not totally submerged when the ship’s machinery spaces flooded and she settled at the dock in Ashtabula.
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Acc ... IR2603.pdf
https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Acc ... IR2603.pdf
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Guest
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
That one wasn't even a Caterpillar. It was a Krupp MaK model 6MU601AK. The Cuyahoga got a Caterpillar 3608.
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Guest
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
Lower Lakes did buy the engine from the Comeaudoc, reportedly to use in the Saginaw, but they never did use it. All three of the repowers they did in Sarnia used new engines.
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Guest
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
I believe this engine came out of the old Comeaudoc before she was scrapped, while still laid up in the upper harbour at Montreal.
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guest
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
Its like buying a used car, you might get a good buy, or you might get a lemmon. Give MRC a call and strike up deal. No harm in trying.
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Shipnerd125
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
Keep in mind too that this engine was extensively rebuilt following the 2023 fire. However, photos I've seen suggest it has been open to the elements since the top of the engine room was opened up. Hard to say what will happen.
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Guest
Re: Cuyahoga Engine
With about 25 seasons of service on it, I doubt it ever goes into another large vessel's engine room.
While an engine is expensive and a pre-owned one would be a cost savings, the shipyard time makes it a bit of a non-starter since the bill is still going to be expensive. If you're say Interlake Steamship and repowering with an eye towards another 30-40 years of service, starting out with an old engine just doesn't add up.
Maybe for something like a tugboat though, since we do see preowned diesels going into things like fishing boats and older tugboats from time to time (and there's a lot of Caterpillar 3608's out there in tugs). And such work on a smaller vessel doesn't have to happen at an expensive shipyard with the vessel on blocks in a drydock.
It's worth noting that Caterpillar parts are expensive (it's why for instance that many a Cat repowered locomotive in the US has been retired and scrapped by shortlines and regional railroads, since EMD's are so much cheaper to acquire parts for). So I imagine that's why her 3608 seemingly isn't being cut up. It's more valuable to sell to someone, perhaps for parting out, rather than to scrap. I believe that a running Cat of this vintage for instance can be around $50-$100k on the open market (which no doubt must be well above scrap value).
While an engine is expensive and a pre-owned one would be a cost savings, the shipyard time makes it a bit of a non-starter since the bill is still going to be expensive. If you're say Interlake Steamship and repowering with an eye towards another 30-40 years of service, starting out with an old engine just doesn't add up.
Maybe for something like a tugboat though, since we do see preowned diesels going into things like fishing boats and older tugboats from time to time (and there's a lot of Caterpillar 3608's out there in tugs). And such work on a smaller vessel doesn't have to happen at an expensive shipyard with the vessel on blocks in a drydock.
It's worth noting that Caterpillar parts are expensive (it's why for instance that many a Cat repowered locomotive in the US has been retired and scrapped by shortlines and regional railroads, since EMD's are so much cheaper to acquire parts for). So I imagine that's why her 3608 seemingly isn't being cut up. It's more valuable to sell to someone, perhaps for parting out, rather than to scrap. I believe that a running Cat of this vintage for instance can be around $50-$100k on the open market (which no doubt must be well above scrap value).
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Aab350
Cuyahoga Engine
All that remains of the Cuyahoga at MRC is the engine and the metal below it basically(saw it in a captain thé video) could they be saving the engine for use in another ship?