Menihek Lake and Carol Lake

[William Lafferty]

Did the Carol have General Electric steam turbines?

Yes, 9350-shp.

[Chief1]

Did the Carol have General Electric steam turbines?

[osbrian]

menihek lake 008 pops.jpg
Menihek Lake throttle station - very early 70's.

Thanks for posting. A quick question. When standing watch did you have to stay at that location to instantly react to any changes in engine commands on the Chadburn from the bridge? I believe that most if not all engines are now controlled from the wheelhouse.

The watchkeeping team would man the throttle station and telegraph while the vessel is on Standby.

[Guest Jared]

Has anyone ever seen a write up of the history of the Hanna Mining Company's marine operations? It seems like that would a pretty interesting read with all of the fleets affiliated with that company.

Nobody has ever done a complete write up for Hanna. It took me 4 months of research to write a chapter for my book. Essentially Hanna had interests in everything but owned as little outright as they could. Vein of Iron, Honorable Peter White, and two Hanna bios written in 1923 and 1941 are the only real sources you'll find until the 20s era. Hanna owned mines in Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming, Brazil, Labrador, with interests in Africa and Australia. Massive web to untangle to make a coherent story.

May I ask the name of the book your wrote?

I have not completed it yet. It'll be a year or so.

[Guest]

menihek lake 008 pops.jpg
Menihek Lake throttle station - very early 70's.

Thanks for posting. A quick question. When standing watch did you have to stay at that location to instantly react to any changes in engine commands on the Chadburn from the bridge? I believe that most if not all engines are now controlled from the wheelhouse.

[Guest]

Has anyone ever seen a write up of the history of the Hanna Mining Company's marine operations? It seems like that would a pretty interesting read with all of the fleets affiliated with that company.

Nobody has ever done a complete write up for Hanna. It took me 4 months of research to write a chapter for my book. Essentially Hanna had interests in everything but owned as little outright as they could. Vein of Iron, Honorable Peter White, and two Hanna bios written in 1923 and 1941 are the only real sources you'll find until the 20s era. Hanna owned mines in Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming, Brazil, Labrador, with interests in Africa and Australia. Massive web to untangle to make a coherent story.

May I ask the name of the book your wrote?

[osbrian]

Menihek Lake throttle station - very early 70's.

[Guest Jared]

Has anyone ever seen a write up of the history of the Hanna Mining Company's marine operations? It seems like that would a pretty interesting read with all of the fleets affiliated with that company.

Nobody has ever done a complete write up for Hanna. It took me 4 months of research to write a chapter for my book. Essentially Hanna had interests in everything but owned as little outright as they could. Vein of Iron, Honorable Peter White, and two Hanna bios written in 1923 and 1941 are the only real sources you'll find until the 20s era. Hanna owned mines in Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming, Brazil, Labrador, with interests in Africa and Australia. Massive web to untangle to make a coherent story.

[Guest]

Has anyone ever seen a write up of the history of the Hanna Mining Company's marine operations? It seems like that would a pretty interesting read with all of the fleets affiliated with that company.

[Guest]

Nipigon Transport was jointly owned by Hanna and Cargill. In 1985 Hanna acquired the shares of Nipigon Transport that Cargill had.

Carryore Limuted was setup in the late 1950s by five companies with iron ore mining interests.

National Steel had 44% of the shares of Carryore. The rest of the shares at various amounts were owned by Youngstown Sheet and Tubine, Armco Steel, Hanna Mining and Wheeling-Pittsburgh. Hanna Mining later took over the Armco shares. Hanna Mining managed the fleet.

[Guest]

Labrador had four ships: the Glossbrenner and Wolvin that you mentioned as well as the VW Scully and Pointe Noire.

Nipigon was also associated with Hanna Mining, it was sort of a sister company to Carryore. Both went under at the same time and the combined fleet was sold to Algoma in 1986.

[Steph3500]

Thanks all for the replies.

While we're on the subject, what boats did Labrador Shipping roster? I find photos of A. S. Glossbrenner and Augustus B. Wolvin. Pretty strange to see that classic Canadian bunker design like the Glossbrenner painted up for Interlake IMO.

Also to round out this discussion, who was Nipigon Transports associated with? They appear to have followed a similar arc to Labrador.

[Guest]

[quote= Live in the present not the past.
[/quote]
Don’t live in the past? A very large portion of this site is rooted in the past.

[guest]

No matter how you slice it, hanna,labrador and carryore are defunk. The only us company still around is interlake. Live in the present not the past.

[Guest]

You are correct about the model, but you missed the lead ship in the class. That was Hanna’s
George M. Humphrey built in Lorain, OH in
1954.
The two Canadian vessels were part of a Hanna subsidiary, Carryore.
The Menihek Lake did not have passenger quarters like the other four vessels did.

[Guest]

Carryore was a Canadian branch of Hanna Mining, not Interlake. Interlake's similar Canadian subsidiary was Labrador Shipping.

[ejawac6n]

Carryore was the canadian subsiduary of interlake. It was sold to algoma central in the 80s. Their house flag was like the present day Canadian but instead of being red it was black

[Steph3500]

Was looking at pictures of the old Carryore fleet and noticed that the boats Menihek Lake and Carol Lake are actually very similar apart from their pilothouses. My question then is two-fold. Were these boats built with the same hull design and if so, why the switch in pilothouses?

Also of note is that the pilothouse on the Carol Lake looks very similar to that of the John Sherwin or Charles Beeghly.